Family of five to ten looking to move with 90 to 120 days notice.

We are Christians.  My wife and I are retired and debt free with moderate monthly income (long as the economy lasts).  We are looking to live a self sustaining life style full time and move to join a group or help start one. By living a self-sustainable lifestyle before you can survive while thriving after any crises that may occur.  I am not looking for a place to hide and die but a permanent change in lifestyle to start getting off the grid as we can and then staying off the grid in a secure, secluded area.

I don’t want to work hard and dumb but simple and basic.  I have a lot of tools and equipment.  I hope to also get (or build) a saw mill and backhoe.

We have food, water filters, some weapons and ammo and a camper to live in till I can build a living structure.  Will be building some type of an earth structure from one of the following: Aircrete, CEB, (compressed earth block) Rammed Earth Bags and/or Adobe using the reactive home concept for a living structure (no mechanical heating or cooling) as taught by Bill Mollison long before Mike Reynolds’ Earth Ship concept ever came along.  I am thinking about build my own CEB press.  I also have the material to build a metal roof for a shop about 40’x40′ using earth walls from local soil.

I believe biofuel is one answer for renewable fuel and garbage scrap disposal.

Aquaponics is the only real answer to a year round renewable food source of meat and vegetables that I am aware of.  Built in a reactive greenhouse.

I have personal experience with compost toilets and have built two of them so far with good results.

We have a 2000 gal. rain catchment system in place at our current location.  Designed for a purification system that is renewable without going to the store for filters.  We built a furnace to make activated charcoal to use with sand (which is in abundance).  We have most of the purification system already assembled and ready for food grade 55 gal barrels.

If we join a group, we will need at least 1-2 acres to build and live on. We want to help others do the same, we also want to work on the common area preparing it for the group for when it all falls apart.

I am learning more every day and by no means have even scratched the surface so I want to learn all I can from others as well.

We have started converting our lights over to LED lighting, 12v rolls of strip lights in the old 120v light fixtures.  With changes in electrical consumption we have cut our usage in half over the last year getting ready to switch to solar and wind with battery storage.  I am leaving the old 120v system in place so I can take the new system with me.

I have a wife, two sons, (23 & 31) a daughter-in-law, daughter (26) with 3 year old son all in better than average health.  We also have friends who want to go with us as time will permit them to do so.

No medications required for any of us as we use essential oils, herbs and supplements and hopping to start grow a lot of what we will need.  I am looking forward to learning more on how to make tinctures and our own E oils.  As well as canned and fermented foods(the more of this the less refrigeration needed).   We are all on board for this.

We thought we had a place but it didn’t work out so we need to get out of the city.  We currently live in a highly populated area in an irrigated desert which is running out of water.  When power is gone, the water will be gone as will civil order.

I am a Army Vet 73 to 77 was an E5 Motor Sgt in Schweinfurt, Germany.

We have construction experience, electrical, plumbing, welding, machine, metal buildings & roofs (one retro fit roof the size of two foot ball fields 82′ up), mechanic of both gas and diesel, solar hot water system, semi truck driver, some reloading experience and equipment, certified gun smith (passed a test), canning experience with canning equipment and much more.

I have worked relief on two hurricanes working almost 30 days with each one.  So I have seen total destruction, civil disorder, rioting, marshal law with state troopers and national guard.  I’ve also seen families who were desperate and not prepared at all along with families who never missed a beat as they were ready for the natural disaster that hit.  I lived at a mission base 13 years ago with my oldest son for two months in the Amazon without power so we ate meat only when we had caught or killed it.

Eleven years ago we lived in a camper for one year on the road along the eastern coast from Niagara Falls, along the outer bank islands to Beaumont Texas then on to El Paso, down to Las Cruces, N.M, then from Sholo to Sahuarita, Arizona while homeschooling my two youngest.

We are debt free and looking to be in a group with christian values to connect with and then relocate to, which will not be a quick process as we will need to get to know each other (although time is short).  Don’t need decoder rings but security is an important point before we consider joining forces with others.  We are not looking for a group to join but one to be a part of to form friendship and trust where we cover each others back or 6 as some say.

We have served the Lord for 23 years full time without a paying full time job so we do not have a nest egg or 401K so if you are looking for someone with a lot of money look somewhere else.  If you would like a Godly relationship with a hard working and honest family then we are open to more communications as to how we could fit together.  We can support ourselves and are not looking for a free ride.

If you want to talk about someday maybe doing something then please find someone who is looking to someday maybe doing something to talk to.

If you are ready to act now, I have much more to share but will do so in a more private way.  So contact me then we can talk privately.  Email me and I will send you my phone number.

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